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	<title>Comments on: The 12 Apostles &#8211; Thugs, Punks, and Outcasts</title>
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		<title>By: Patriot1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patriot1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys do look kind of like hard core, anti-social hoodlums. That&#039;s all right though, I&#039;m kind of a social misfit myself, so I can relate to it. Keep on rockin&#039; for Jesus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys do look kind of like hard core, anti-social hoodlums. That&#8217;s all right though, I&#8217;m kind of a social misfit myself, so I can relate to it. Keep on rockin&#8217; for Jesus!</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it interesting that God takes people from where they are to where he wants them to be.  We are all a work in progress. Church is not an institution. It is a group of people called out of the world and into a familial relationship. The 12 were called out, brought in and nurtured into a spiritual transformation that opened up a new vista of reality for them.  We also are called out and born into a new reality. We are not perfect, however, our flaws are used by God to show his power.  His strength is made evident through our weaknesses. Faith in Him is developed and we become empowered to witness and proclaim in ways we never imagined possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that God takes people from where they are to where he wants them to be.  We are all a work in progress. Church is not an institution. It is a group of people called out of the world and into a familial relationship. The 12 were called out, brought in and nurtured into a spiritual transformation that opened up a new vista of reality for them.  We also are called out and born into a new reality. We are not perfect, however, our flaws are used by God to show his power.  His strength is made evident through our weaknesses. Faith in Him is developed and we become empowered to witness and proclaim in ways we never imagined possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 05:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I 100% agree...we all have baggage, we all have skeletons in the closet...God isnt looking for perfect people He is looking for people who will walk with Him and love Him as He asked us too...its all in the heart...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I 100% agree&#8230;we all have baggage, we all have skeletons in the closet&#8230;God isnt looking for perfect people He is looking for people who will walk with Him and love Him as He asked us too&#8230;its all in the heart&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment.  Jesus called us not to conform to the world. Although he does say that we should live in peace under government rule because all power comes through Him.  As for &quot;church folk&quot; perhaps I should clarify a bit more.  I am talking about the people that go to church every Sunday, wear their Sunday best, are &quot;holy&quot; and &quot;spiritual&quot; and go out and sin all week long, these people are wrapped up in the law and legalism.  These are the same &quot;Christians&quot; that look down their nose at anyone who is not like them.  It is unfortunate, but I think most of the people that frequent this site (Christian and non-Chrisitian) have had far to many encounters with these types of folks that reject (oh, you have tattoos, therefore you are going to hell), or just plain turn people off to Christianity because of their &quot;better than you&quot; attitudes. 

If we are all truly born again, then we should be able to get along here on earth, after all, we are going to be neighbors in heaven forever!

May the God of Isaac, Jacob, and Abraham bless you too brother!

Josh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment.  Jesus called us not to conform to the world. Although he does say that we should live in peace under government rule because all power comes through Him.  As for &#8220;church folk&#8221; perhaps I should clarify a bit more.  I am talking about the people that go to church every Sunday, wear their Sunday best, are &#8220;holy&#8221; and &#8220;spiritual&#8221; and go out and sin all week long, these people are wrapped up in the law and legalism.  These are the same &#8220;Christians&#8221; that look down their nose at anyone who is not like them.  It is unfortunate, but I think most of the people that frequent this site (Christian and non-Chrisitian) have had far to many encounters with these types of folks that reject (oh, you have tattoos, therefore you are going to hell), or just plain turn people off to Christianity because of their &#8220;better than you&#8221; attitudes. </p>
<p>If we are all truly born again, then we should be able to get along here on earth, after all, we are going to be neighbors in heaven forever!</p>
<p>May the God of Isaac, Jacob, and Abraham bless you too brother!</p>
<p>Josh</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy Josh~ Came across your site here and found it very interesting. I am glad that God can and does choose to use us even with all our baggage scars and imperfections. I am preaching through a series of sermons right now on who and how God chooses to use and tommorrow will be dealing with the calling of the Apostles. I came to pretty much the same conclusions you did and it is sad that more folks don&#039;t see those things as the Bible clearly lays them out. Keep up the good work pointing others to Christ.

Please be careful though, Jesus didn&#039;t call us to be &quot;anti-religion and anti-establishment&quot; anymore than he called us to be religious conformists to an establishment. When you label and bash &quot;church&quot; folk you only fall pray to the same sinful pride that causes them to bash and label &quot;punks&quot; like yourself. God bless you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy Josh~ Came across your site here and found it very interesting. I am glad that God can and does choose to use us even with all our baggage scars and imperfections. I am preaching through a series of sermons right now on who and how God chooses to use and tommorrow will be dealing with the calling of the Apostles. I came to pretty much the same conclusions you did and it is sad that more folks don&#8217;t see those things as the Bible clearly lays them out. Keep up the good work pointing others to Christ.</p>
<p>Please be careful though, Jesus didn&#8217;t call us to be &#8220;anti-religion and anti-establishment&#8221; anymore than he called us to be religious conformists to an establishment. When you label and bash &#8220;church&#8221; folk you only fall pray to the same sinful pride that causes them to bash and label &#8220;punks&#8221; like yourself. God bless you.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you have us confused with Church folk.  We are completely anti-religion and anti-establishment.  We are as punk as you my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you have us confused with Church folk.  We are completely anti-religion and anti-establishment.  We are as punk as you my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: bunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>bunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please dont tell me u honestly think ur true punkz, cuz ur not. being a real punk has NOTHING 2 do w/ jesus. its all about anarchy and being ur own person, not being brainwashed by religion. please at least consider trying 2 be a non cristian punk, cuz ur ruining some good music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please dont tell me u honestly think ur true punkz, cuz ur not. being a real punk has NOTHING 2 do w/ jesus. its all about anarchy and being ur own person, not being brainwashed by religion. please at least consider trying 2 be a non cristian punk, cuz ur ruining some good music.</p>
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		<title>By: kristi</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good stuff. good stuff. I had a lot of doubts in myself when I decided to be a Christian. I thought, look at me, I&#039;m all tatted up, i used to do this and that back in the day. I came to the conclusion that God does use us, even ME. Me, who has a blemished past. I know when I publicly declared that I was going to study the Word in Bible college, with hopes of maybe pursuing prison ministry one day,folks came out of the woodwork to pitch in their two cents about where I hung out, or what I looked like, etc.. People where saying, remember when you hung out at the Clubhouse or the Warehouse, in Cincinnati, my hometown or, you did this or that, or looked this way or that way. I still look this way, I still am ME. People like to call you (me) a sellout. Im still me, but my heart has changed, my life has changed. I imagine some of you can identify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good stuff. good stuff. I had a lot of doubts in myself when I decided to be a Christian. I thought, look at me, I&#8217;m all tatted up, i used to do this and that back in the day. I came to the conclusion that God does use us, even ME. Me, who has a blemished past. I know when I publicly declared that I was going to study the Word in Bible college, with hopes of maybe pursuing prison ministry one day,folks came out of the woodwork to pitch in their two cents about where I hung out, or what I looked like, etc.. People where saying, remember when you hung out at the Clubhouse or the Warehouse, in Cincinnati, my hometown or, you did this or that, or looked this way or that way. I still look this way, I still am ME. People like to call you (me) a sellout. Im still me, but my heart has changed, my life has changed. I imagine some of you can identify.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHOOT!!  Good stuff, good stuff!  I never really thought of, or realized some of the things you pointed out.  Basically though, it goes to show God chooses &quot;the Misfits&quot; to do His bidding!  And that even the lowest, worst of us, can be called by God to be great, and powerful workers of the Kingdom of Heaven!!!  God bless!
~DAVE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHOOT!!  Good stuff, good stuff!  I never really thought of, or realized some of the things you pointed out.  Basically though, it goes to show God chooses &#8220;the Misfits&#8221; to do His bidding!  And that even the lowest, worst of us, can be called by God to be great, and powerful workers of the Kingdom of Heaven!!!  God bless!<br />
~DAVE</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, man.  Check this out 

36.5 of the 66 books of the Bible are authored anonymously or by people for whom we have little to no biographical information.  For those authors whose lives we do know a bit about, who wrote 29.5 books between them, it doesn&#039;t look good.

Moses murdered a man and fled to escape the punishment - 5 books

David plotted Uriah&#039;s death and took his wife - 1/2 book (about 73 of the Psalms)

Solomon led Israel into idolatry and laid the foundations for its split into two nations - about 2 books

Matthew was a tax collector: a sellout and traitor to God&#039;s people - 1 book

Peter, among his many other foibles, famously denied Jesus on the night of his trial - 2 books, and played a major part in the writing of a 3rd.

Paul persecuted and killed Christians - 13 books.

that&#039;s 23.5 out of 29.5 books whose authors had very very sketchy backgrounds.  That&#039;s 80%, though obviously that figure doesn&#039;t account for the length of the various books.

As for the remaining 6 books: 5 were written by John of Zebedee, who though he never did anything radical like murder, still appears to have been a bit of a brown-noser.  And, one was written by James the brother of Jesus.

So it&#039;s safe to say God chooses people with crap in their backgrounds.  Those are the people who wrote the Bible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, man.  Check this out </p>
<p>36.5 of the 66 books of the Bible are authored anonymously or by people for whom we have little to no biographical information.  For those authors whose lives we do know a bit about, who wrote 29.5 books between them, it doesn&#8217;t look good.</p>
<p>Moses murdered a man and fled to escape the punishment &#8211; 5 books</p>
<p>David plotted Uriah&#8217;s death and took his wife &#8211; 1/2 book (about 73 of the Psalms)</p>
<p>Solomon led Israel into idolatry and laid the foundations for its split into two nations &#8211; about 2 books</p>
<p>Matthew was a tax collector: a sellout and traitor to God&#8217;s people &#8211; 1 book</p>
<p>Peter, among his many other foibles, famously denied Jesus on the night of his trial &#8211; 2 books, and played a major part in the writing of a 3rd.</p>
<p>Paul persecuted and killed Christians &#8211; 13 books.</p>
<p>that&#8217;s 23.5 out of 29.5 books whose authors had very very sketchy backgrounds.  That&#8217;s 80%, though obviously that figure doesn&#8217;t account for the length of the various books.</p>
<p>As for the remaining 6 books: 5 were written by John of Zebedee, who though he never did anything radical like murder, still appears to have been a bit of a brown-noser.  And, one was written by James the brother of Jesus.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s safe to say God chooses people with crap in their backgrounds.  Those are the people who wrote the Bible.</p>
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